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	<title>Comments on: Full Circle to Smalltalk</title>
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		<title>By: Norberto Ortigoza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norberto Ortigoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Les,

I think this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.glorp.org/documentation.html&quot; title=&quot;ORM project&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; is the one you are looking for.

Excellent post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Les,</p>
<p>I think this <a href="http://www.glorp.org/documentation.html" title="ORM project" rel="nofollow"> is the one you are looking for.</p>
<p>Excellent post!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(First, I have to admit to not being as smart/geeky as most folks who would be reading this.)  This was an interesting article - I strongly agree with almost everything you said.  Oddly - I came across your page by doing a google search on &#039;awsome smalltalk ide&#039;.  I&#039;m looking for a Java IDE that is similar to the VisualWorks Smalltalk IDE.  I miss the visually organized class hierarchy and the fact that the only code that appears in the edit window is the code in the method I&#039;m modifying.  The Envy version control was wonderful.  I also liked being able to group methods within a class by category.  We used Toplink as our Smalltalk ORM.  I have nothing to compare it to, so don&#039;t know how it rates, but it was easy to implement and did the job.  (Like Smalltalk, however, Toplink costs.)  I&#039;m not sure about frameworks like Struts, but my team spent a year refactoring an app to implement our own internally designed framework.  My thought is that if our little team could come up with a good framework within a year (while getting other &quot;real work&quot; done) it seems reasonable that the open-source community could come up with something reliable in a short time.  I&#039;m all for the success of Smalltalk and morn its demise.  Thanks for the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(First, I have to admit to not being as smart/geeky as most folks who would be reading this.)  This was an interesting article &#8211; I strongly agree with almost everything you said.  Oddly &#8211; I came across your page by doing a google search on &#8216;awsome smalltalk ide&#8217;.  I&#8217;m looking for a Java IDE that is similar to the VisualWorks Smalltalk IDE.  I miss the visually organized class hierarchy and the fact that the only code that appears in the edit window is the code in the method I&#8217;m modifying.  The Envy version control was wonderful.  I also liked being able to group methods within a class by category.  We used Toplink as our Smalltalk ORM.  I have nothing to compare it to, so don&#8217;t know how it rates, but it was easy to implement and did the job.  (Like Smalltalk, however, Toplink costs.)  I&#8217;m not sure about frameworks like Struts, but my team spent a year refactoring an app to implement our own internally designed framework.  My thought is that if our little team could come up with a good framework within a year (while getting other &#8220;real work&#8221; done) it seems reasonable that the open-source community could come up with something reliable in a short time.  I&#8217;m all for the success of Smalltalk and morn its demise.  Thanks for the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd Marinescu</title>
		<link>http://leshazlewood.com/2006/02/18/full-circle-to-smalltalk/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd Marinescu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 20:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Les, great post. I was wondering if you&#039;d be interested in massaging this into an article on why Groovy could be the next Smalltalk? Email me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Les, great post. I was wondering if you&#8217;d be interested in massaging this into an article on why Groovy could be the next Smalltalk? Email me.</p>
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